29 Replies Latest reply: Feb 10, 2012 12:47 PM by Kesavadas Thekkillath RSS

Post has been Rejected

Mahesh SAP
Currently Being Moderated

HI

 

I am sorry to ask you please still i didn't understand on what basis i got the mail

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if you people don't mind can you please tell me the reason

 

The links which i got the mail id

 

[Re: ERLA/NORM, Header and Item Level Pricing Issue|http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2131527&tstart=50]

 

[Re: user exits for sales order   |http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2128353&tstart=0]

 

Regards,

Prasanna

  • Re: Post has been Rejected
    Thomas Zloch
    Currently Being Moderated

    Since the rejected posts are gone, can you post your texts here for further discussion? If I remember correctly, the text is quoted in the rejection mail that you received.

    Thomas

    • Re: Post has been Rejected
      Mahesh SAP
      Currently Being Moderated

      Thanks for Reply

       

      For the First Thread what i have given the reply

       

      OR           ERLA                 TAQ
      
      OR          NORM     TAQ    TAP

       

      and also check in VOV7, Item category TAP - Pricing field "Empty"

       

      Statistical Value field should be "X"

       

      For the Second Question

       

      Go to SE38: MV45AFZZ

       

      User Exit : FORM USEREXIT_SAVE_DOCUMENT_PREPARE

       

      Code:  IF xvbap[] IS INITIAL AND VBAP-MATNR = ' '.
      MESSAGE 'NO ITEMS ENTERED' TYPE 'E'.
      ENDIF.

       

      Regards,

      Prasanna

      • Re: Post has been Rejected
        Thomas Zloch
        Currently Being Moderated

        Not sure, maybe you repeated information that was already posted? We cannot see the exact position of your posts in the threads anymore.

        Anyway, let's see if the responsible moderator will comment here.

        Thomas

        • Re: Post has been Rejected
          Matthew Billingham
          Currently Being Moderated

          I remember this one. There was a complaint that your post, dated Feb 6, 2012 12:17 PM, was extremely similar to the earlier post.

           

          Earlier post Feb 6, 2012 12:13 PM -


           

          Item Category group for Subitems should be ERLA, not NORM.Sales Order - Item Cat Group - Higher I Cat - I Cat

           

          OR ERLA   TAQ

           

          OR ERLA TAQ TAE

           

           

           

          Try & share feedback.

           

          Regards

          JP 

          -


           

          Whoever the moderator was who rejected your post (and I don't know and can't tell I'm afraid), he (or she) felt that the complaint was justified.

          • Re: Post has been Rejected
            Matthew Billingham
            Currently Being Moderated

            Similarly for Re: user exits for sales order

             

            RahalFM wrote at 4:09pm:

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            Hi,

             

            USEREXIT_SAVE_DOCUMENT_PREPARE is called only when you try to save the sales order. Therefore check with your ABAP developer, whether you can use below user exit.

             

            Include - MV45AFZZ

            User Exit - FORM USEREXIT_MOVE_FIELD_TO_VBAP

             

            This is getting triggered as soon as when you enter a material in the Line item.

             

            Best regards,

            Rahal

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            You wrote at 4:40pm:

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            HI

             

            If you want mandatory Material Number in sale order if my above assumption is correct try to follow the below Enhancement

             

             

            Go to SE38 , Enter MV45AFZZ

             

            User Exit : FORM USEREXIT_SAVE_DOCUMENT_PREPARE.

             

             

            Code :  IF xvbap[] IS INITIAL AND VBAP-MATNR = ' '.

            MESSAGE 'NO ITEMS ENTERED' TYPE 'E'.

            ENDIF.

             

             

             

            The above will give the error message if the end user didn't enter the material and try to save

             

             

            Regards,

            Prasanna

            -


             

          • Re: Post has been Rejected
            Mahesh SAP
            Currently Being Moderated

            Thanks for Reply

             

            I didn't check what Mr.Prakash has given the reply for that issue because i have already open thread and trying reply for that thread because of some reason i opened but not reply  , after that i gave the answer to that thread because i checked in my books and SAP. It doesn't mean that i used Mr.Prakash answers (Sorry if i use bad words)

             

            If i see the Mr.Prakash answer i didn't post him

             

            if the same answer will give so many people but the different is presentation like how you explain

             

            [Re: Customer Advance Payment |http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2132105&tstart=0]

             

             

            If you check the above link , i explained like It is possible through Special G/L account

             

            but Mr.Prakash has explained clearly about the Special G/L account little bit in FI side also , so it means he followed my reply

             

            Coming the Sale order issue , because i added the Code apart from that every one gave the same reply  but what Mr.Rahul has suggested before that 2 users has given the reply then why Mr.Rahul reply is not deleted , is there any specific reason ?

             

            If i am wrong asking the above questions please correct me

             

            Regards,

            Prasanna

             

            Edited by: prasanna_sap on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM

             

            Edited by: prasanna_sap on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 AM

          • Re: Post has been Rejected
            Mahesh SAP
            Currently Being Moderated

            Thanks for reply ,,

             

             

             

            OR ERLA TAQ
            OR ERLA TAQ TAE
            Try & share feedback.
            
            Regards
            JP

             

            OR           ERLA                 TAQ
             
            OR          NORM     TAQ    TAE

             

             

            There is lot of variation between 2 answers , so on what basis they are rejected and also please check the thread once again what Mr.Praksh has suggested what i suggested

             

            Regards,

            Prasanna

             

            Edited by: prasanna_sap on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM

             

            Edited by: prasanna_sap on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 AM

  • Re: Post has been Rejected
    Matthew Billingham
    Currently Being Moderated

    I do not know and cannot find out who rejected your posts, nor their reasons.  I assume it was because of the similarity to the earlier posts, and because of the complaint, but I don't know.

     

    Until/unless the moderator who made the decision answers you here, there's not much more to be said.   Certainly, I will not comment on whether I think the rejection was justified or not.

     

    I will say that moderation is an art not a science. It is subjective opinion, not objective. It's a judgement call. If you think your posts should be brought back, then send an email to sapnetwork @ sap.com

     

    matt

    • Re: Post has been Rejected
      Mahesh SAP
      Currently Being Moderated

      Thanks for reply ,

       

      But my question is not getting the post back ,

       

      If some one has informed then only they can rejected my post , that means may be moderators or users (I am not sure just guessed) , but before rejecting any thread why don't they didn't check & delete.

       

      That means some one have authorization to approve it until unless they don't rejected

       

      Regards,

      Prasanna

      • Re: Post has been Rejected
        Thomas Zloch
        Currently Being Moderated

        Not sure what you are referring to now, but the process is that users report "abuse" via the yellow button, and a forum moderator will review the case and then decide to reject, move, edit or leave as is.

        Due to the subjective nature there is a gray area of cases where one moderator might decide to reject, and another would leave as is.

        Thomas

        • Re: Post has been Rejected
          Mahesh SAP
          Currently Being Moderated

          Thanks for reply ,

           

          one moderator might decide to reject, and another would leave as is

           

          I didn't understand clearly ,you mean to say that if one Moderator take the decision , other Moderators will leave

           

          If i am wrong please correct me

           

          Regards,

          Prasanna

          • Re: Post has been Rejected
            Matthew Billingham
            Currently Being Moderated

            Please understand that neither Thomas nor I are responsible for the forum you posted in. We are only explaining the process, not commenting on the merits of your case.

             

            Only moderators can reject posts. Someone complained. A moderator investigated and decided that the complaint was justified. The moderator rejected your posts.

             

            Anyone can make a complaint (using the yellow triangle). Once a complaint has been made, the moderator can either reject or accept the post.

             

            Moderators do not reverse other moderators' decisions. Mistakes are sometimes made, and the route then is to send an email like I suggested, if you think it's important enough.

            • Re: Post has been Rejected
              Mahesh SAP
              Currently Being Moderated

              Thanks for reply ,

               

              I know you people are helping ,

               

              Anyone can make a complaint (using the yellow triangle). Once a complaint has been made, the moderator can either reject or accept the post.

               

              That means if some one hit the Yellow Triangle it goes to Moderators who is responsible , so they can come to know who has done this

               

              simple they can't do it correct

               

              Suppose one person is purposefully done some threads (Yellow Triangle) , without reading the thread they can't do it correct (Moderators)

               

              What I feel is before taking any action at least they can concern the Moderators related to Forum like SD, MM , PP etc.. or whose is responsible

               

              Suppose because of that reason if they remove my ID then that case what can I Do ?

               

              Regards,

              Prasanna

              • Re: Post has been Rejected
                Thomas Zloch
                Currently Being Moderated

                My turn again...

                 

                Yes, evil minded users could report posts purely as retaliation or due to other dark motives, but then moderators would see that there is nothing wrong with the reported post and leave it as is, maybe even emailing the reporter if he does this notoriously.

                 

                ID's are not removed lightheartedly, you would be warned in posts or by email beforehand. Only SCN super admins can delete IDs, and they only do that after being alerted by moderators with sufficient evidence and after approval by another SCN admin.

                 

                Thomas

              • Re: Post has been Rejected
                nabheet madan
                Currently Being Moderated

                Hi Prasana,

                 

                I was going through this thread and thought of putting in my 2 cents based on  reading the thread.  Please note that i am not a moderator  and also i m not judging anyone. Every one is active contibuting member so we are sharing our thoughts or views.

                 

                I had a look at the second thread concerning the user exit posted by you and Rahal. Both are implying the same thing to use a user exit and you have provided an additional code also. But i  think as responsible contributor its our duty to guide the other person not to spoon feed them. Believe me i have faced the same thing earlier when i started doing spoon feeding. Eventually it is through the help of moderators i am still trying to understand the right forum rules or what is the purpose of our reply. It is simply to Guide them.

                 

                I would also like to say about this question regarding enhancement has been asked several times on ABAP forums also. It can be easily searched on SDN.

                 

                I just dont want to hurt anyone sentiments. Its just that all moderators are doing a wonderful job volunterly. Yeah Matt has rightly mentioned it its an art not a science.

                 

                The best thing will be please keep on contributing as you are already doing it and keep helping keep learning. Let each member of SDN be responsible towards making it a better and better place each day each hour each second.

                 

                Thanks

                Nabheet

              • Re: Post has been Rejected
                Juan Reyes
                Currently Being Moderated

                Hi Prasanna,

                 

                Just reading this thread... I rejected the posts because I found that the abuse report was justified. As far as I remember both post were reported as repeated answers (which is considered point hunting) and rejected.

                 

                Theres no much more to add, simply refrain from repeating info already given on the thread and the situation will be avoided.

                 

                Regards

                Juan

                • Re: Post has been Rejected
                  Mahesh SAP
                  Currently Being Moderated

                  Thanks for reply ,

                   

                  Even I agree for that issue because you people found that i have given the same answer means include or program and user exit which is provided my other users.

                   

                  what about the another issue ERLA / LUMF ? what is the reason for this thread ? , this is not abuse correct

                   

                  On what basis the user mention that it is abuse ?

                   

                  with out checking how they can delete ?

                   

                  Regards,

                  Prasanna

                  • Re: Post has been Rejected
                    Matthew Billingham
                    Currently Being Moderated
                    prasanna_sap wrote:

                     

                    Thanks for reply ,

                    >

                    > Even I agree for that issue because you people found that i have given the same answer means include or program and user exit which is provided my other users.

                    >

                    > what about the another issue ERLA / LUMF ? what is the reason for this thread ? , this is not abuse correct

                    >

                    > On what basis the user mention that it is abuse ?

                    >

                    > with out checking how they can delete ?

                    >

                    > Regards,

                    > Prasanna

                     

                    A user thought your post was too similar to the immediately previous post. The moderator who moderated that post, checked the thread, and agreed with the member. The moderator deleted/rejected your post.

                     

                    Do you now understand the sequence of events?

                     

                    Only moderators can delete posts. Only moderators make that decision. Moderators don't delete without checking. You may disagree with a moderators decision.

                     

                    All clear now?

                    • Re: Post has been Rejected
                      Mahesh SAP
                      Currently Being Moderated

                      Thanks for Reply Mr.Matt,

                       

                      A user thought your post was too similar to the immediately previous post. The moderator who moderated that post, checked the thread, and agreed with the member. The moderator deleted/rejected your post.
                      
                      Only moderators can delete posts. Only moderators make that decision. Moderators don't delete without checking. You may disagree with a moderators decision.
                      
                      All clear now?

                       

                      OR ERLA TAQ
                      OR ERLA TAQ TAE
                      Try & share feedback.
                       
                      Regards
                      JP
                      
                      
                      OR           ERLA                 TAQ
                       
                      OR          NORM     TAQ    TAE

                       

                       

                      Still not clear my point, there is a lot of different when you think about SAP point of view for those replies , On what basis Moderator is agreed ?

                       

                      If you clarify this doubt i am so happy and i will close my thread

                       

                      Sorry if I hurt any one

                       

                      @ Prakash : I know your most Knowledgeable person because of your experience, sorry if i hurt you in my previous words

                       

                       

                      Regards,

                      Prasanna

                       

                      Edited by: prasanna_sap on Feb 9, 2012 5:54 AM

                      • Re: Post has been Rejected
                        Ravi Sankar
                        Currently Being Moderated

                        Hi Prasanna,

                         

                        but some time if e don't understand what he/ she wants exactly , we can assume and give the Reply for that thread , it may or may not be correct

                         

                        100% disagree with your statement. As a functional consultant your primary job is to understand the business need and translate it from business language (the way business users explain the requirement) to functional language/functional spec (the way the technical consultants can understand). Otherwise there is no need of a Functional consultant and the business users can directly work with the technical consultants. If you are going to work on assumptions...it is mandatory to inform the business that you are working under those assumptions. In SDN also, if you are replying based on some assumptions, it is advisable to mention your assumptions in the reply or ask the member to provide all the required information before giving your suggestion.

                         

                        When Prakash is considered as knowledgeable, it doesn't mean he is more knowledgeable than you or not in comparision with any other member. The context was about copying other's (esp your) message in his replies. But, the knolwledge of a person can be judged from the quality of the posts/replies...atleast to some extent. Quality interms of framing the sentences and spelling mistakes also counts.

                         

                        In the item category assignment reply...I do not find a great difference between the two replies. JP has mentioned the TAQ assignment at HLItemCategory and you have given it as Default Item Category. Though your message is correct, (as per your message in the previous post...the TAQ is not in the postion of Default Item Cat...which is wrong again) instead of giving all the details again, you can simply mention the correction to previous post, since it is a minor correction. Otherwise it looks like the reply was posted only for points even if not posted with such intention.

                         

                        I value your contribution in SD forums....and wish to see you more active answering good questions providing your valuable suggestions (as you are doing now).  

                         

                        Thanks,

                        Ravi

      • Re: Post has been Rejected
        G Lakshmipathi
        Currently Being Moderated

        I am really surprised to see this thread as it has missed my attention.  Since the issue relates to the forum I moderate, I would like to add my comments.

         

         

         

        if the same answer will give so many people but the different 
            is presentation like how you explain

         

         

        Yes exactly.  Moderators are also just looking at whether the message is copy pasted or not.

         

         

         

         

        but Mr.Prakash has explained clearly about the Special G/L account little 
             bit in FI side also , so it means he followed my reply

         

         

        I dont agree with your statement.  Mr.Prakash is also knowledgeable member and able to give suggestions on his own.

         

         

         

         

         

         

        i added the Code apart from that every one gave the same reply

         

         

        Again had I noticed that thread, my question to OP could have been spell out your requirement clearly.  When the requirement is not clear, I dont know how you had suggested user exit.

         

         

        G. Lakshmipathi

        • Re: Post has been Rejected
          Mahesh SAP
          Currently Being Moderated

          Thanks for giving reply ,

           

          Even i agree Mr. G. Lakshmipathi, but some time if e don't understand what he/ she wants exactly , we can assume and give the Reply for that thread , it may or may not be correct , if it is wrong , the person will explain clearly

           

          and also coming to one more i wanna ask you "Mr.Prakash is also knowledgeable member and able to give suggestions on his own "

           

          On what basis you can category whether he is knowledgeable or not , it based on experience or based on Points

           

          sorry if i ask wrong question because of my interest just i asked don't take any one personally , it is my request personally

           

          Coming to my questions what about another question like ERLA / LUMF ?

           

          Regards,

          Prasanna

           

          Edited by: prasanna_sap on Feb 8, 2012 9:44 AM

          • Re: Post has been Rejected
            Jyoti Prakash
            Currently Being Moderated

            Hello Prasanna,

             

            "Mr.Prakash is also knowledgeable member and able to give suggestions on his own "

            On what basis you can category whether he is knowledgeable or not , it based on experience or based on Points

            Can't able to get you? Can you justify the statement?

             

            Regards

            JP

  • Re: Post has been Rejected
    Phani Prasad
    Currently Being Moderated

    Hi,

     

    I faced a similar situation.Please find this [link|http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2084443&tstart=25].

     

    I feel that modeator's should have the same interest in  explaining the reasons behind the removal of posts when they remove them.

     

    Phani Prasad

    • Re: Post has been Rejected
      Matthew Billingham
      Currently Being Moderated

      Phani Prasad - still banging on about it after, what, three months? It really rankles, does it?

       

      It is not possible to determine which moderator rejected the posts. Unless the moderator leaves a note with the rejection, we can't tell. If the moderator doesn't come onto this thread, then we'll never know.

       

      It is already a principle among moderators that we give reasons for rejection - unless it's blatantly obvious what the problem is. It is not possible to enforce this principle. It has been explained clearly by Thomas and myself what the likely cause is, at great length. We do consider it  important to be as transparent as possible or we wouldn't spend our time on it.

       

      Moderation is carried out by volunteers. We give up our time and work hard, with the prime motivation being the health of the forums you enjoy. Sometimes it is hard work, and, as we tend to see more of the shallow end of the gene pool, sometimes it can be very discouraging. Mistakes happen. Decisions will be made that you don't agree with. You won't always get a satisfactory answer. Posts will be rejected without adequate explanation.

       

      Live with it. This is the real world, not Plato's Utopia. As one of my wise friends said: this is website, not democracy.

  • Re: Post has been Rejected
    Mahesh SAP
    Currently Being Moderated

    HI Moderators ,

     

    Again my post is rejected , check the below link

     

    [Tax Calculation of free goods   |http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2143085&tstart=30]

     

    Can  you please explain what is the reason exactly

     

    Regards,

    Prasanna

    • Re: Post has been Rejected
      Matthew Billingham
      Currently Being Moderated

      Under investigation - temporarily restored.

       

      matt

      • Re: Post has been Rejected
        Mahesh SAP
        Currently Being Moderated

        Hi

         

        Thanks Matt , can I know on what basis they are deleting because i don't want to repeat in future

         

        HI Matt i wanna ask you one question related to my previous Query I sent a mail to sapnetwork @ sap.com but still i didn't get any reply can I know what is the reason

         

        HI Thomas , As per my knowledge pricing we can't judge others pricing procedure how they have done until unless if they provide entire details otherwise we need to give only few tips which he/ she needs to check and revert the thread  (If i am wrong correct me )

         

        Regards,

        Prasanna

        • Re: Post has been Rejected
          Matthew Billingham
          Currently Being Moderated

          sapnetwork@sap.com is run by SAP. I am not a SAP employee, and have no access to this email account, so I cannot help you as to why you've had no response.

           

          As far as knowing why your post was deleted - as I've said, it's under investigation. It is a general principle that it should be clear why any post is rejected. Neither Thomas nor I are SD experts so cannot answer whether it was reasonably rejected.

           

          Note - I replied to you at about ~10pm my time yesterday. It is now 6am. Moderators are spread across the time zones, so please be patient.

    • Re: Post has been Rejected
      Thomas Zloch
      Currently Being Moderated

      My SD pricing knowledge is very old, but I think your reply was quite vague compared to the detailed question, it sounds as if you just gave it a shot in the hope of gaining some points, maybe it was reported for this reason.

      On the other hand, SCN would shrink in size by 50% or more if we would consistently delete all similar posts, so I could understand you're not feeling happy to be singled out like this.

      Thomas

    • Re: Post has been Rejected
      G Lakshmipathi
      Currently Being Moderated

      While there is nothing wrong in your response, you would have noticed what exactly the OP's query is.  It is

       

      Also wondering if the scenario can be addressed with Free of Change Dellivery

       

      for which, you have not responded properly that's what I feel.

       

       

      G. Lakshmipathi

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