Hi Eva,
let's do a short example:
If you have want to do some masterdata for customers in MDM. To do so you need also the governance process for this. This process is often a multilevel approval workflow and therefore you need the BPM.
In the end you will have following landscape
MDM where the data is stored
CE with Webdynpro Java in order to get access to the data and approximate the business logic
BPM with human tasks and automatic tasks to route the process
Hope this helps
Andy
Hello Eva,
1. Complex workflows can be designed using BPM with multilevel approvals, which is not feasible in MDM.
2. Data governance can be carried out with BPM.
3. BPM is more user friendly and its very flexible, can be modified as per the Business requirement.
4. BRM is used for Tasking and routing rules.
Below links might help.
http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-14799
Rgds,
Prasad.
hii eva
1) first thing is governance to improve your data quality via dedicated workflows.
2) you can perform data quality operation like validations also other operation like creating, modifying data through portal or mobile application without touching any mdm clients.
3) you can apply rules at each step which is not possible by mdm alone
4) even with bpm you can use business object data services like address validations to data before storing it to mdm, which is not possible in mdm.
5) bpm can syndicate or import data between ecc and mdm, and whole process is automatic.
Regards
Nitish Sharma
Hi All,
Thanks for the responses.
1) Why should we use BPM for approvals when the MDM Workflow has the approve step in it??
2) Can BPM (CE) pick the files from a ftp location? and consume them in to its workflows!!!
3) Does anyone have a real time scenario for customer/material/vendor where adding BPM is Only the solution?
Please help me in understanding this, I can see many documents on MDM and BPM but before i go through them i need to understand the above.
Kind Regards
Eva
Hi Eva
BPM is a tool for managing complex and configurable workflows. Also if requirement is to cross link multiple applications like MDM, ECC. These and many more are the MDM workflow limitations. To know more you can go through Best Practices Workflow for Master Data Management
http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-16289
to reply to your questions-
1)Refer to link above.
2) Not a good design I can say. We need to have a staging area for storing the version of records before they are approved.
3) We have different solutions available. But with CAF GP obsolete now the focus is more on BPM. Also MDM workflow have host of limitations and dont offer cross linkage between platforms.
Thanks-Ravi
Hi,
Thanks for the Replies.
1) Is CE a system like R/3 (client-server).
2) Does CE Consists of Only BPM in it or in other words it is ONLY used to create WF/BPM?
3) Does CE have the capability of extraction of data from legacy systems / Legacy locations (ftp)?
Or how does the BPM gets the data into its WF??
Kind Regards
Eva
Hi eva
1) yes its like client-server, CE consist of nwds, nwdi, ce server. CE server fulfill functionality requires by nwds.
2) CE consist of many functionality like bpm, brm, webdynpro(visual composer) etc which basically integrated to nwds.
3) BPM by itself can search the data, or can trigger bods for extraction.
Regards
Nitish Sharma
Hi Nitesh,
Thanks for the Response.
3) BPM by itself can search the data, or can trigger bods for extraction.
So can i say that..
> BPM can Extract files from a ftp location.
> BPM can connect to a 3rd party applications directly and fetch the data.
> BPM can connect connec directly to any Database and fetch the reequired data.
Kind Regards
Eva
Hii Eva
No bpm can only trigger third party application, it cant fetch the data.
Regards
Nitish Sharma
Hi Eva
Give some points if you find my answers suitable and close the thread.
Regards
Nitish Sharma
Hi Jun ,
When you say that BPM is a Framework for work flow than please comment of my below questions .
1) Do we need BPM in our architecture if we have a EP up and running ( As it is mentioned that BPM can also as a front end ) ?
2) We can custom build ABAP workflows and display a UWL on the portal for the approval of the workflows ?
Regards,
Vignesh
1.bpm is not a front end
2. no problem
but sap provide some utility for mdm ui construction in CE environment, which host the bpm function, you just configure what fields from mdm you want to display. if you go with abap, you have to build the UI from scratch, that may take a lot of time.
Hi Jun ,
When you mean UI , its only the UWL and nothing else i beleive (Correct me if i'm wrong)
Regards,
Vignesh
Hi Jun ,
Lets assume a scenario where i already have a EP -> MDM -> ECC scenario ,
Now does it really make sense to get in BPM in between EP and MDM or can we just custom build the worrflows in the ECC system and use them ??
Regards,
Vignesh
1. BPM is not coming between EP and MDM.
2. bpm is just a workflow engine, of course you can go with ecc workflow.
Hi Vignesh
Comparison between bpm workflows and ecc workflows would be wrong, ecc workflows only work for ecc scenario but bpm workflow can be used for other scenarios also for eg water regulatory approval system.
Regards
Nitish Sharma
See both are developed for specific purpose, these components are not in competition.
BPM can be triggered through mobile but ecc workflow can't be triggered.
BPM can trigger transfer data to mdm(we can apply trigger mdm validation also) than to ecc, which i think ecc workflow can't do.
Both product has its own features and quality and made for different purpose , so comparison is wrong here.
