20 Replies Latest reply: Apr 19, 2012 11:10 PM by Craig S RSS

manual pop up in QA32

Sachin Sharma
Currently Being Moderated

Dear Gurus,

                    while inputting results for inspection characteristics (QA32) MANUAL POP is appearing and its making my process very lengthy and labourious. please guide me how i can remove this POP up and let it automatic.

 

this is happening in one of the new plant. in rest of the plants its automatic. checked and compared plant settings, sample procedure, inpection plan characterics view but no sucess in bypassing this POP up.

 

i have been reviewing online suggestion but nothing is helping.

 

your prompt response is highly appreciate.

 

thanks,

 

Coolio.

  • Re: manual pop up in QA32
    Sujit Gujar
    Currently Being Moderated

    What is pop-up exactly.....can you please tell the description !

  • Re: manual pop up in QA32
    Craig S
    Currently Being Moderated

    In config:

     

    Quality Management-->Basic Settings-->Maintain Settings at Plant Level

     

    On the tab for Results Recording, check the value for "Recording Configuration".  You might have "Automatic close" for your other plants and "No background function" for your new plant.

     

    The other possibility is that you created your users differently in the new plant.  You can set up the recording configuration as a user parameter.  However I suspect this is not the problem, but it could be a possibility.

     

    FF

    • Re: manual pop up in QA32
      Sachin Sharma
      Currently Being Moderated

      could you please elaborate this "The other possibility is that you created your users differently in the new plant"

      i'm not expert on QM so if you could mention the transaction codes?

       

      i checked SU3 for parameter ID QAE, QAN, and QAS in the user parameter SU3 and they all are marked X already.

      • Re: manual pop up in QA32
        Craig S
        Currently Being Moderated

        Check out page 23 here:  http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/print46c/en/data/pdf/QMIMRR/QMIMRR.pdf

         

        Then also check out this explanation of setting personal PID's. 

         

        http://www.sapfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=304495

         

        If the users have been set up with any of these PID's in their accounts, it can affect how the automatic close is done.

         

        The reason I said this is probably not the problem, is that a particular user, (such as your own account), should see the same behavior in ALL plants.  So if you see two different behaviors in the two plants while using the same login account, than the user parameters are not the issue.

         

        However, you could as a "fix" give all the users one of the PID's described in the link such as QAE.

         

        FF

        • Re: manual pop up in QA32
          Craig S
          Currently Being Moderated

          BTW,

           

          The auto valuation and close will not function if the sampling procedure is incorrect or if the data recorded does not allow the system to make clear cut choice of accepted or rejected.

           

           

          One other thing to check.  Are you using the same characteristics across all plants?  Or did you create new MIC's in the new plant?  If you created new ones, make sure the scope indicator is set to "fixed scope".  Auto valuation cannot be done when the other scope choices are used.

           

          FF

          • Re: manual pop up in QA32
            Sachin Sharma
            Currently Being Moderated

            i checked sample procedure and its ok. i even replaced it with the one used for other plants (which works ok in other plant) but still the POP up.

            i tested the characteristics which is also used for other plant and it gave pop up.

             

            Scope indicator is already FIXED.

             

            this is furstrating because i analzed all the recommended setting and still this pop up is bugging me.

             

            many thanks in advance for any suggestions.

          • Re: manual pop up in QA32
            Sachin Sharma
            Currently Being Moderated

            i'm apparently CLOSE to it. please suggest further.

             

            for the same plant i saw some other characterictics with automatic results input - that is no POP up appears for them. but for specific characteristics there is manual POP up prompt window.

            Is that related to MIC or any other master data i'm missing ??

        • Re: manual pop up in QA32
          Sachin Sharma
          Currently Being Moderated

          i tried with all of these PID's mentioned and it still remains.

          • Re: manual pop up in QA32
            Jimmy Hawkins
            Currently Being Moderated

            Are you using SPC sampling procedures? I have had this happen before only with characteristics that had SPC sampling procedures.

            • Re: manual pop up in QA32
              Sachin Sharma
              Currently Being Moderated

              yes we use sampling procedure- please elaborate if you're asking something specific as i'm novice in QM.

              LK LIQ Blk Liq

              CHEMICAL Chemical

              DFCAT Domino - catalog, automatic

              DFNUM Domino - numeric, automatic

              GENERAL General

              INSPOIN2 Inspoin2

              INSPOINT Inspoint

              LOT COPY Lot Copy

              MICRO Micro

              RAWSUGAR Raw Sugar

              STATS Stats

            • Re: manual pop up in QA32
              Sachin Sharma
              Currently Being Moderated

              i even changed the sampling proc to the one that had the material not prompting for manual valuation-transaction QP02 but it didnt worked.

              • Re: manual pop up in QA32
                nasir ilyas
                Currently Being Moderated

                i had the same scenario kindly change the valuation type and sampling type

                try by using sampling type percentage and valuation type manual or valuation acc to chara  attributes

                • Re: manual pop up in QA32
                  Sachin Sharma
                  Currently Being Moderated

                  Nasir,

                           the similar attributed exists for other plant, but when i do RR for this of my plant its manual valuation.

                  FYI, we have auto valuaiton for all US plants and for non- US (recently created) this exists for some of the characteristics/ ,materials - few other material/ char in this plant are automatically valuated. so i wonder if this is master data related and if yes then where is the missing link ?

                   

                  please suggest.

            • Re: manual pop up in QA32
              Sachin Sharma
              Currently Being Moderated

              ok, I have somefindings on this.

              due to out rollout project most of the QM master data was imported to our new system and for that master data its prompting MANUAL POP UP, but if we copy master data and create the same data manually then its there are no POP-up.

               

              i duplicated the MIC's and manually created another one to do RR and the one imported shows POP up and the one manually created via copying is OK.

              so my question is what table/ transaction can i compare my the missing links  ?

              • Re: manual pop up in QA32
                Craig S
                Currently Being Moderated

                QPMK it the table with the MIC info in it.  You may also need to look the MIC's as they appear in the inspection plan.  That would be table PLMK.

                 

                And finally you'll want to see how the MIC values are stored once the results are recorded.  That data would be in table QAMR.  Spec data is in QAMV.

                 

                If you record multiple results for the same charac you need to look at QASE.

                 

                If you use inspection points or physical samples then you'll need to look at QAPP or QASR respectively.

                 

                Depending on exactly what you are doing and what type of recording and MIC you are using, there could be some other tables involved but these should get you started.

Actions