45 Replies Latest reply: Jul 27, 2012 5:55 PM by swathi swathi RSS

fresher

swathi swathi
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hallo everyone , am new to sap is abap good choice for beginners ?

 

can anyone suggest me which module is best and easy module to begin the career with sap ...

  • Re: fresher
    Van Nguyen
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    I would start with BASIS training, get to know how to get in SAP system and look around then pick your field to go deeper.

  • Re: fresher
    Sanjay Sarda
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    Hi Swathi

     

    I was in the same dilemma 6months ago. But chose ABAP Programming as a base to kickstart my career. I can assure you that it is very much easy and beginner's module. Its a base for programming anything in SAP. I would suggest you to go for it and learn all the concepts (RICEF).

     

    Regards,

    Sanjay.

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    • fresher
      swathi swathi
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      hi thanks for the reply i already have the exp in sql around 2.5 yrs , just interested in abap and change my technology iam in usa , wer are you from ,are you from sap - abap too

      • Re: fresher
        Venkateswarlu Nandimandalam
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        Hi

         

        When you are posting discussion in SCN, please use proper thread so that you will have fair chances to get good replies.

         

        You are in US, don't you heard about SAP HANA?

         

        As you have SQL background and i assume you have fair knowledge on Data Base Concepts..

         

        Just go for SAP HANA.

         

        If you want further details search in net or reach me out?

         

        Regards,

        Venkat

  • Re: fresher
    Thomas Dulaney
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    Swathi,

     

    Please go right now to SAP Career Blog Links and check the section Blogs for students still in school or who have just graduated and Blogs for folks interested in Certification or just in learning SAP functionality.

     

    In particular the Advice for Recent College Graduates (aka "Freshers") blog and the "Learning SAP when you don't have an SAP job already" series.  You should also look at the two blogs in the Blogs about the basics section as that will explain some basic terminology.

     

    Now... let's talk about a few other things....  You asked for best and easy. I'm hoping this was just an unfortunate word choice. Best is a matter of opinion: vanilla or chocolate. You need to educate yourself on the various career paths (programming, system administration, functional consulting, project management, etc) and the business subspecialties (components: SAP ERP, SAP CRM, SAP SRM, SAP SCM; modules - SAP ERP: FI, MM, PP, SD, etc) and then select for yourself the path and subspecialty which interests you most. The blog post on overview books is probably a good place to start.

     

    As for "easy", you're in the wrong field. Nothing about SAP is "easy". SAP is the heart and soul of the companies in which it is installed. Folks take that seriously. There are deadlines and requirements and at no point does "easy" factor in to the equation. If you want a job that is mentally low stress, then get a job flipping burgers. If you want a job that is physically low stress, then SAP work probably fits the description; however, very few folks who work to support an SAP system lead low stress 9-to-5 type lives. Supporting a system means deadlines and often work on weekends and holidays. If you're just looking to punch a clock and collect a paycheck, then you should be looking to get a job as an end user, not as a support person.

     

    Also, and I apologize for being a bit harsh, but SAP is a business system. You should strive to present yourself in a professional manner at all times. That means proper capitalization, punctuation, grammar, and spelling at all times. Your emphasis on easy and the general appearance and tone of your written communication leads me to believe that you may not have what it takes to be successful in an SAP career. In the blogs provided, you have a roadmap and all the tools necessary to succeed. If you read them and have questions, I and and many others stand ready to answer any questions you may have, but you have to do your homework first. I haven't seen any evidence yet that you have the ability to do the hard work necessary to even begin a career in SAP. I sincerely hope you have the drive and determination to prove me wrong. 

     

    Best regards,

      --Tom

    • Re: fresher
      swathi swathi
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      hi thomas,

       

      You should encourage freshers like me but not discourage i hope am not wrong , even you are in my shoes when you are beginner ..

       

      i was in a dilemma which is easy as beginner i know sap is not an easy module so i was expecting some answers from experienced people like you to choose my path like which is easy obviously module to start with anyways  i have my own choice but still i was confused and looking for good suggestions ...

       

      right now am trained , when i get a job will prove you are wrong about me ...

       

      am not an american like you to be fluent in english am from india , can you be in india and talk in tamil,hindi,telugu is that possible to you guys no way so please try to encourage people .

       

      thanks

      • Re: fresher
        Ravi Kiran
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        wow...swathi supre reply.......go ahead...abap is rocking now..learn it....

      • Re: fresher
        Thomas Dulaney
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        Swathi,

         

        I apologize for being unnecessarily harsh in my last response. "Easy" is a hot button for me. Your ability to communicate in English is certainly far greater than my ability to communicate in any other language, so let's just agree to remove "easy" from the conversation.

         

        I hope you have found and read the blogs available at SAP Career Blog Links. There is a tremendous amount of information there which is specifically targeted to folks starting their careers in SAP which should be helpful to you. Now that you've chosen your path, I'm sure you will attack it with passion and gusto.

         

        I wish you great success in your endevours. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help!

         

        Best regards,

         

             --Tom

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      • Re: fresher
        Ravi Sankar Venna
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        Hi Swathi,

         

        There is nothing to be offended from the Tom's words. May be sounds bit harsh but we should always take in the right spirit even if something looks harsh. I do believe this is really an opportunity for improvement in professional and personal life. We should remember if somebody says, we cannot do something, we should do that extraordinary way and prove it. If you believe in this attitude, at one point of time you would have made number of extraordinary things as ordinary things. When a genuine person is giving some suggestion means they must have undergone number of difficulties in those areas, so please take it in right spirit.

         

        Please let me know your background in detail like you have any finance knowledge, programming knowledge etc. It would be helpful to other to give a properly reply.

         

        Best Regards,

        Ravi

        • Re: fresher
          NAVEEN KUMAR REDDY Kalikiri
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          What Ravi Sankar saying is 100% true

        • Re: fresher
          swathi swathi
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          I agree you friends but dont discourage anyone , everyone has their own path to prove themselves.

          • Re: fresher
            Thomas Dulaney
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            I am passionate in my belief that there is room in the SAP world for anyone who is willing to put in the effort to research and perform at a high level. When you care about whether folks succeed or not, sometimes a little discouragement is required. For example, if I were to see a blind person trying to cross a busy street, would I encourage them to cross where they are? No! That would be irresponsible and cruel. Rather, I should discourage them from taking a dangerous path and redirect them to the crosswalk, which may be a bit further away, but ensures safety and success. My goal in answering questions on SCN is always to direct SAP career seekers to the path of greatest success.

             

            Some don't like being told that simply getting an SAP certification is not a golden ticket to an easy life, but is it better to let someone head down that path, perhaps investing large amounts of money they can't afford, which still does not successfully  result in a job, much less a career in SAP?  Or is it better to point out the tried and true path? If you read the blogs at the link I provided, you'll see that there are stories there of how other folks have successfully blazed the trail for you. You'll find links that lead to books, websites, and ways to get access to live systems. There are blogs which describe possible career paths from fresher to grizzled veteran.

             

            There is a saying in English, "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime." I'm trying to teach you to fish.  As Ravi pointed out, your original post was a little short on data. In that situation, the best we can do is point you to the necessary data so that you can make an educated decision on your own.

             

            I stated in my original post that I thought you had perhaps just used an unfortunate word choice and you confirmed that this was indeed the case. I have apologized and indeed I apologize again. I generally strive to gently nudge folks in the right direction, but in your case I failed. Please read the information provided and ask any questions you have. The SCN community will be happy to teach you to fish.

             

            Best regards,

              --Tom

            • Re: fresher
              swathi swathi
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              But still blind people cross the road thomas they are more talented too in their own path and the people who are not blind can help them if possible ..

               

               

               

              if you would have met a person like you when you are starting your career in sap then i dont think  you would be here for sure.

              • Re: fresher
                Thomas Dulaney
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                Go back and read my paragraph again. I didn't say that I wouldn't help them. I said I would discourage them from taking the most dangerous path with the lowest probability of a good outcome and encourage them to take the longer, safer path. The blind person might be offended by my suggestion. S/he might think they know better and that I'm trying to hinder them. In point of fact, I am trying to make them successful in the quickest, safest way possible. What s/he initially might perceive as negative, would, if s/he could step back and look at the situation objectively, actually be seen for what it really is, a positive attempt to help someone overcome a lack of knowledge.  (I am assuming that the blind person would actually choose the safest path and not willingly choose to walk out into almost certain doom, but some folks would rather jump into traffic than admit that they might not know everything...)

                 

                I encountered many types of people when I started out (Storytime! How did you get your start in SAP?, if you're curious). Some were helpful, some were not. I didn't let the ones who were unhelpful or even directly hostile slow me down and I was grateful for the ones who helped me out. I am most grateful to the ones who taught me that if I wanted to be successful, I would have to work harder and do more research than anyone else, that my passion for my subject is the only thing that matters. I knew many folks who tried to become basis folks because they thought it would be an easy paycheck, but all of them burned out in short order because they didn't have the passion for Basis necessary to carry them through adversity.

                 

                When I was just starting out, I had a hard time distinguishing between helpful folks and hostile folks at times. I remember one moment in particular. I was having a problem with the system and I went to ask my mentor what to do. He responded, "I don't know, what does your research suggest?" I then had to confess that I hadn't done any research. At the first sign of trouble, I asked him for the answer. At first I was outraged! How could he not help me and just give me the answer. Surely he knew the answer, it was actually a fairly common, basic problem! In fact, he did know the answer, but he also knew that it was more important that I figure out where to find the answer myself so that in the future, when I ran into problems and he wasn't around, I would know where to look and how to find the answer.

                 

                I quickly grew stronger in my ability to research and find answers on my own. Soon I realized that my friends whose mentors were "nicer" and just answered any question they had or even solved problems for them were falling far behind. Many of them never caught up and ended up leaving the profession altogether. Sometimes, Swathi, sometimes you have to be firm and fair with a "fresher" to lead them down the right path. You've been given the tools. It's up to you to make the best of them.

                 

                Best regards,

                  --Tom

          • Re: fresher
            Ravi Sankar Venna
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            I could proudly say Tom is one the guy who is really helping and guiding number of freshers / even experienced people. We should definitely appreciate the kind of effort he is putting out of his busy scheduled and coming forward to help the people genuinely. If somebody says, I have some problem in me, first of all I will thank that person and try to rectify that to the maximum extent. For that matter, nobody is perfect in this. Everybody, will have some loophole. There is no need to take anybody words are discouraging, as long as we have confidence in ourselves.

             

            When we are posting on a forum like SDN and still talking about SAP is available for 1000 INR, we should know which direction we are going into. That means somebody is encouraging this piracy and somebody is confirming the piracy.

             

            Many people think that SAP is bed of roses, but it is full of challenges. If you fail to deliver the commitments to the clients, then you will know how annoying and difficult a life of SAP consultant is. I should still appreciate Tom for his patience and explaining the things nicely. You should definitely appreciate him rather than blaming.

             

            Before posting, please go through the forum, you will find number of answers for your questions. This type of questions are being asked number of times and they are very well answered.

             

            Furthermore, this is a professional forum and you are all expected to communicate in common language, which is English. Please keep this forum clean as much as possible.

             

            All the best.

             

            Best Regards,

            Ravi

             

            PS: Please note that all this communications are being monitored by moderators from SAP.