few of my friends got job in SAP SD, FICO module. the salary is really great. my question is comparing to other platforms ex JAVA, networking, programmer etc SAP ppl seems to make more money. is that cause
1. extensive travel involvement?
2 not enough supply in the market?
or something else?
i am confused.
No, it is much simpler than that. You are probably aware of the discrimination that is going on in the workplace, i.e. better-looking people get better salaries. All us SAP consultants are downright stunning. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrithik_Roshan">Hrithik Roshan</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilpa_Shetty">Shilpa Shetty</a> pale alongside us, and that is the simple explanation for the higher salaries.
It could also be because all universities churn out Java-programmers, but you won't (as far as I know) find a single ABAP-programmer or SAP functional consultant coming straight from the university. So as you indicate, it is probably an issue of supply and demand. SAP is doing well, so SAP consultants are in high demand, whether it be technical consultants or functional consultants. I haven't heard of any employers offering higher salaries due to extensive travelling. Usually it is not difficult to find people who won't mind seeing other parts the world (for a few years) at the expense of others.
To reduce the salary pressure some companies, IBM among others, set up their own education programmes. Time will show whether that will be a successful strategy or not.
As with any profession, if you are on top of your game, you will be rewarded. Alot of hard work and lots of hours go into thisw, and very few people start off with lots of money!
The common misconception is that if you work in SAP you will get lots of money! You have to work very ahrd for it, and it will not just fall in your lap. Many people have to work many years before they can command the salaries they get, otherwise, they go freelance, and the work is not always there.
Don;t get into SAP thinking you will make your fortune, it doesn;t work that way. Do it because you love it.
Let's not forget that you cannot compare apples with oranges:
When you are talking about Java you are talking about a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer">programmer</a> or a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_developer">software developer</a>.
This has nothing to do with SAP, it applies to any organisation. As Barry said, through hard work and becoming good at what you do can you move from bookeeper to accountant to financial business analyst; or from dispatch clerk to logistics consultant.
> [...] through hard work and
> becoming good at what you do can you move from
> bookeeper to accountant to financial business
> analyst; or from dispatch clerk to logistics
Not to mention; from Java developer to ABAP developer and ultimately to SAP Business Workflow developer - the best of the best of the best as they say in Men In Black
<i>For those who don't know: both Mike and I are familiar with the SAP Business Workflow environment.</i>
It's not that ABAP coding is more difficult than Java coding. I haven't done any Java development, but I would think the usual rule about difference between languages being mostly a syntax issue applies. However, there are some differences between your average Java programmer and your average ABAP developer it seems.
One difference was once described as "the Java programmers look for ways to break the system security, while the ABAP programmers look for ways to make the system safer". A bit of a hacker culture among many Java developers, that is.
ABAP developers usually quite quickly come across performance issues. It is not related to the programming language, it is related to the environment we work in - large enterprise systems where database size growth sometimes is counted in tens of gigabytes per month.
The SAP systems are also huge and complex in a different manner. If you are developing a solution one should (well, at least I agree with this) try to find existing function modules, data elements etc that can be used. This can take a large percentage of your time when you work in SAP. An experienced SAP developer should know her/his way around the system, and thus can be much more productive than a beginner.
Experience always makes you worth more (makes you more effective). I suppose the potential is not exhausted as quickly in SAP as in other development environments, but I don't really see why a fresh developer should make more money developing in ABAP than in Java.
IMHO, we as ABAP Developers earn more money simply because large companies use SAP...In a big company you got the most critical processes and environments, so you need to pay a lot to got the best developers and get the best applications running -:)
Five years ago, when I was a SAP freshman...I earn X dollars...Now, being a Senior Developer I earn 9X dollars...Comparing to some of my friends that works either on Java, Oracle or Power Builder...
ABAP is not that hard to learn...But being good is hard...You have to learn some of the basics of every SAP module...learn tons of table names, FM's, BAPI's and so on...
Of course...at least in Perú...a new army of ABAP developers are being released to the market every 6 months or less...But being junior developers they got that much...When the become Senior...You can become an Architech and earn even more -:)
Also, it can depend on the way you sell yourself...Here on Perú, I'm very well known and beign a Freelance Consultant gives me the opportunity to not only work on a lot of companies but also on a lot of Consultant companies, so that's why I'm able to reject some offers, and ask more money for certain projects...
It depends of course on the Market, the country, the company and some other factors...Still, be earn big money, which makes happy enough to not question my paycheck -;)
> hello friends,
> few of my friends got job in SAP SD, FICO module. the
> salary is really great. my question is comparing to
> other platforms ex JAVA, networking, programmer etc
> SAP ppl seems to make more money. is that cause
> 1. extensive travel involvement?
> 2 not enough supply in the market?
> or something else?
> i am confused.
It's because SAP stands for Salary Advance Program !
> It's because SAP stands for Salary Advance Program !
That's a new one! I used to collect these abbreviations, but I can't find my list now, so I just remember a few;
Stop All Production (offshore (oil) workers)
Submit And Pray (programmers)
Suffering And Pain (don't know)
Suffer And Pay (don't know, but probably someone who paid the license fees