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December 7th we conducted a tweetchat (see #SAPChat) on SAP´s Cloud strategy. Focus was based on a recent blog I posted (see here:http://blogs.sap.com/cloud/2011/11/17/sap%E2%80%99s-cloud-approach-%E2%80%93-supporting-hybrid-lands... ) and of course many tried to check if #SFSF would be discussed. Well, you will for sure hear more about this from me after close.
We gave some background to customer and partner experiences, especially from our co-innovation program where we involve them from day 1 of starting a new project. We highlighted some of the increasing demand we do have for subsidiaries, especially for OnDemand products, the 2 Tier ERP Approach.
Keep following us, we will have a new #SAPChate coming up soon in Q1, and of course we will answer topics we could not answer December 7th 
Read the transcript here
Welcome to our #SAPChat on #cloud! We have our hosts @SDenecken & @Rhirsch here to answer your questions live!
07-Dec-11 15:00 | @Sap
We know a lot of you may have questions related to @SuccessFactors. But unfortunately we’re unable to answer questions… #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:02 | @Sap
…due to legal issues. Here’s a post to explain: Here’s a quick blog post explaining what we can discuss http://t.co/DPpThFvq #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:02 | @Sap
I know that #SFSF is a hot topic for you now, feel free to join a discussion here http://t.co/wUIsoZ5t not now in #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:05 | @SDenecken
#SAPChat Since #SAP cant comment on Q&A regarding #SuccessFactors I used my crystal ball to answer http://t.co/1uxPYltj
07-Dec-11 15:17 | @Sap_Jarret
looking forward to #SAPChat on Cloud Strategy – let’s get started – try & stump us
07-Dec-11 15:02 | @rhirsch
Q1
Let me get the ball rolling: why is a hybrid on-demand & on-premise strategy important for #SAP’s #cloud strategy? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:05 | @Sap
I think that the hybrid approach (OnPremise/OnDemand) allows SAP to use process experience from OnPremise in OnDemand environments
07-Dec-11 15:05 | @rhirsch
Q2
Is there a plan to publish cloud app roadmaps and white spaces for partners to focus on? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:05 | @s_khan
@s_khan Yes, we are discussing whitespaces with the eco-system already and working on roadmaps #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:06 | @SDenecken
@s_khan I assume that you are interested in the ByDesign whitespaces? Correct? #SapChat
07-Dec-11 15:08 | @rhirsch
Thanks @SDenecken. @rhirsch not only ByD, but LOB and Industry apps as well #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:09 | @s_khan
Q3
What types of companies are making the move to the #SAP cloud? What qualities of the #cloud make them want to go that direction? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:07 | @itelligence_US
@itelligence_US we have companies of all sizes, look at our portfolio for details on SME, LE and Partner ecosystem #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:11 | @SDenecken
Q4
what is the future strategies on Enterprise Portal related to #cloud #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:08 | @rajubbk
@rajubbk you may want to take a look at the PortalOnDemand solution – it is planned to run on NetWeaver NEO trunc.it/io9my
07-Dec-11 15:08 | @rhirsch
@rajubbk Enterprise portal more related to OnPremise, for cloud solution mainly mobile, Silverlight and HTML5 coming #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:08 | @SDenecken
don’t think that a common/managed end user UI is only relevant on premise (re. #EP on premise) @rajubbk #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:10 | @dakoller
@dakoller I think it depends on whether on whether we are talking webUI or mobile #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:14 | @rhirsch
@rajubbk Portal also plans an on demand strategy, see portal roadmap future directions: http://t.co/wWU6VgTJ. #SAPchat
07-Dec-11 15:15 | @PORTAL_SAP
@rhirsch right, but pure html5, mobile etc. is *alone* no replacement for a complete portal solution #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:16 | @dakoller
@dakoller true, mashup capabilities need to be considered as well. Wouldn´t a service imntegrate to an existing portal? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:19 | @SDenecken
@SDenecken right:however SAPs strategy focussed 4 me on providing THE internal portal ¬ so much on integration into othr portals #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:22 | @dakoller
@dakoller but the definition of the portal is expanding into the OnDemand arena as well – hybrid potential is there as well #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:26 | @rhirsch
@SDenecken So in that case SAP will provide a solution similar to #salesforce ? #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:12 | @rajubbk
@rajubbk Not know enough about what SFDC is doing or really delivering, we believ in decoupling of logic + UI to stay flexible. #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:15 | @SDenecken
@s_khan @rajubbk yep that it is the advantage of the NW Neo – open standards #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:16 | @rhirsch
Q5
could you define the cloud in a tweet? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:09 | @stebren1
@stebren1 the SAP definition or a general one? For which audience? It is tough in a tweet? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:11 | @rhirsch
@rhirsch its tough, i appreciate, sap definition? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:13 | @stebren1
Q6
Can you tell anything about Core and Edge, and whether these are outdated concepts or not? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:10 | @fredverheul
I’d say Core/Edge is still meaningful as edge stands for more rapid innovation, while core = commodities (running core processes) #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:13 | @steinermatt
@fredverheul Still valid, names might change. But we believe that multiple platforms with common qualities and lifecycle / hybrid #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:13 | @SDenecken
@steinermatt #SAPChat – its not #SAPinese, but I like core defined as core competency (differentiating), edge as everything else
07-Dec-11 15:17 | @GregChase
Q7
#SAPChat what is a reasonable timeframe to consider moving core apps – ie SRM from on-premise to SAP Cloud?
07-Dec-11 15:13 | @kgrovetx
@kgrovetx good question #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:14 | @stebren1
@kgrovetx SRM is already available “in the cloud”, called Sourcing OD check http://t.co/dzaGzPhZ #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:17 | @SDenecken
Q8
What is the biggest challenge SAP faces to realize its vision w/ NetWeaver River/Neo – Java developer platform #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:14 | @jonerp
@jonerp I think it is getting momentum in the developer environment and defining the use cases that fit the platform #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:17 | @rhirsch
Q9
#SAPChat What about the cultural implications of the #SuccessFactors deal on staid, old #SAP. See any challenges? #EnSW
07-Dec-11 15:14 | @mkrigsman
@mkrigsman …due to legal issues. Here’s a post to explain: what we can discuss http://t.co/jY04x0j0 #SAPChat #succcessfactors
07-Dec-11 15:14 | @GregChase
#SAPChat @GregChase Rephrase: Is #SAP capable of becoming a “cloud culture” in 2012? #EnSW
07-Dec-11 15:16 | @mkrigsman
via @mkrigsman: #SAPChat What about cultural implications on staid, old #SAP? #EnSW — Staid? Have you been around @sapmentors lately?
07-Dec-11 15:18 | @finnern
@mkrigsman What are factors of a #cloud culture? Here’s one: regular rapid scheduled release. ByDesign is already biannual. #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:18 | @GregChase
@mkrigsman @dan_mcweeney but the ecosystem (devs, etc) can also help influence the culture #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:24 | @rhirsch
@sapmentors MAKE culture. And frankly, most of SAP’s customers want SAP to make sense of innovation and change! @mkrigsman @finnern #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:24 | @GregChase
@mkrigsman ….it’s about strengthening the cloud part of the hybrid vision…this is a big step in the right direction #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:26 | @SDenecken
#SAPChat @finnern @sapmentors @Sap Yes, agreed there is new enthusiasm and innovation, but is it in happy silos or pervasive?
07-Dec-11 15:26 | @mkrigsman
RT @finnern: via @mkrigsman: #SAPChat Think @sapmentors are atypical of SAP culture as a whole. – I see renewed innovation energy @Sap: HANA, InnoJams
07-Dec-11 15:26 | @GregChase
#SAPChat @rhirsch @dan_mcweeney Agreed that the dev ecosystem can play important role in driving culture (and it should!).
07-Dec-11 15:27 | @mkrigsman
@mkrigsman agree that in terms of changing culture around cloud that embracing new biz models is hardest part. Many hurdles there. #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:29 | @jonerp
@mkrigsman …good point…orchestration discussions help avoid silos #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:30 | @SDenecken
via @mkrigsman: #SAPChat @sapmentors Happy silos or pervasive? — HANA’s long tentacles reach far. Enthusiasm of new opportunities @Sap
07-Dec-11 15:31 | @finnern
@mkrigsman @jonerp I think changing corp. culture and changing the business models regarding cloud are two diff things entirely #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:31 | @rhirsch
RT @mkrigsman: #sapchat @jonerp Eventually, #SAP will get #cloud technology totally right. The business model changes are harder, after 40 yrs in business.
07-Dec-11 15:31 | @fredverheul
#SAPChat @rhirsch @jonerp Respected friends, I would argue that business model change and cultural change to the #cloud are tightly linked.
07-Dec-11 15:33 | @mkrigsman
@fredverheul it is about hybrid, preserve the good that you have + adapt to the paradigm shift of the cloud http://t.co/KuSTaGIn #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:34 | @SDenecken
@mkrigsman @jonerp true – I was referring to the levels of difficulty to change them respectively #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:34 | @rhirsch
@mkrigsman @rhirsch “I would argue that business model change and cultural change to the #cloud are tightly linked” – agree with M. #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:35 | @jonerp
@jonerp @mkrigsman regarding business change / culture change – would be interesting to explore role of broader ecosystem in each #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:38 | @rhirsch
#SAPChat @rhirsch @jonerp Business model change without cultural acceptance creates a house divided. #SAP must be careful about that issue.
07-Dec-11 15:41 | @mkrigsman
Q10
#SAPchat you probably read my concerns on “Safe Harbor vs. Patriot Act”. What do current #cloud clients think about this toppic?
07-Dec-11 15:14 | @se38
@se38 Customers are vocal about this, especuially our co-innovation customers… they want to decide where data recides #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:18 | @SDenecken
Q11
#SAPChat Will there be unified approach for partners to develop add-ons on top of core like ByD + LOB, irresp. of platform (if multiple)?
07-Dec-11 15:18 | @fredverheul
@fredverheul are you referring to ByD and NetWeaver Neo – they reflect 2 different use cases – tough to have one unified approach #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:18 | @rhirsch
@rhirsch Yeah but also referring (illegally) to #SFSF and maybe others. If NGAP + NEO Core + Edge resp., tougher for 1 approach #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:23 | @fredverheul
Q12
role of #cloud for #SAP in high-growth market strategy? we see regional players esp. in #BRIC driving share gains w/ #ERP #cloud #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:17 | @EAHHTBR
@EAHHTBR True, cloud in fast growing markets is key, see our collaboration in China e.g. and 2Tier ERP strategy (see my blog) #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:21 | @SDenecken
@EAHHTBR I know that #SFSF is a hot topic for you now, feel free to join a discussion here http://t.co/wUIsoZ5t not now in #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:28 | @SDenecken
@EAHHTBR to the platform PaaS and IaaS http://t.co/M6elOeRo #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:32 | @SDenecken
@EAHHTBR look at the HANA AppCloud – I’ve done a few blogs about it – http://t.co/cAosLZl7 #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:33 | @rhirsch
Q13
How is SAP education keeping up with these rapid product development cycles #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:17 | @boobboo
@boobboo irt Neo / PaaS it’s mostly opensource so the community upskills itself #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:21 | @steinermatt
@boobboo they are at the forefront than change management is huge here #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:22 | @SDenecken
@boobboo agree, take for example a software development kit, needs to be easy to use but rich in content #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:23 | @SDenecken
@steinermatt @boobboo that is 1 emphasis for NW NEO that dev can influence the platform by collaborating in open source projects #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:23 | @rhirsch
@boobboo @steinermatt Furthermore – all the current SAP Netweaver Neo beta users get of course a getting started tutorial. #sapchat #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:24 | @evilyeti
@boobboo I say #SAP understands that to gain momentum, we need to contribute to upskilling as well, we started w/ this @#SAPTechEd #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:27 | @steinermatt
@boobboo @steinermatt the whole issue of developer education is critical for the success of NW Neo – devs beyond SAP ecosystem #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:27 | @rhirsch
Q14
#SAPChat Heard #SAP is building a data center in the US. Where is it located & when will it be operational.
07-Dec-11 15:19 | @Sap_Jarret
@Sap_Jarret Data center in US is already operational in NewTown Square, PA #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:22 | @GregChase
@GregChase @Sap_Jarret …. and further data centers planned – but in SAP Business cloud quality #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:24 | @SDenecken
Q15
#SAPChat Please discuss planned of impact Rapid Deployment Solutions on #SAP market #RDS #EnSW
07-Dec-11 15:22 | @mkrigsman
@mkrigsman RDS – packages mainly for OnPremise, but you can also see them as fast packages to integrate cloud serv going forward #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:27 | @SDenecken
Q16
#sapchat So when is the planned release date to NW Neo. And provide me more information on NW Neo
07-Dec-11 15:26 | @rajubbk
@rajubbk NW Neo beta is open for registrations at http://t.co/h8xqgf46 #sapchat. You can search on #SDN the great blogs of @steinermatt
07-Dec-11 15:30 | @evilyeti
Q17
@Sap @SDenecken What would you think? Will SAP replace Human decision making with its new in memory computing in future?#SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:27 | @Xenon_Kv
@Xenon_Kv don’t know whether it will replace it but they will be complementary to one another. So many use cases… #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:29 | @rhirsch
Q18
#SAPChat Sheer curiosity: are we gonna hit 1000 customers for #ByDesign on 2011-12-31?
07-Dec-11 15:28 | @fredverheul
.@fredverheul FWIW on the two SAP-SuccessFactors calls, Jim Snabe said ByDesign would reach the goal of 1,000 customers for 2011… #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:33 | @jonerp
@fredverheul #ByDesign yes, and Jim just iterated on the calls last weekend #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:29 | @SDenecken
Q19
For Hybrid environments across IaaS and onPremise we need tools like Titanium – when can we see these even in Ramp-up #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:28 | @boobboo
.@BoobBoo Regarding Titanium, hunting for projected ramp-up data for you #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:35 | @GregChase
.@Booboo Re: Project Titanium – we are hoping to go into ramp up in 2013, but no certain date yet. Have to finish some development #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:45 | @GregChase
@boobboo ok, good question, but thought of it in terms of a consistent offering from #sap side #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:39 | @dakoller
@boobboo for devs #gateway imo enables needed integration 4 mobile developments,a 2nd mobile platform is likely not #sap’s priority #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:40 | @dakoller
For those wondering about what Titanium is: Easy provisioning of SAP system templates from catalog / store into IaaS @booboo #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:53 | @GregChase
@GregChase thx… didn’t get that before … thought it is about the mobile app dev tool #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:54 | @dakoller
@GregChase Iaas and MDMHub are a critical component in the cloud strategy – should be get more attention IMHO #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:56 | @rhirsch
Q20
Thanks @rhirsch. Any new business model incorporating SAP HANA App with cloud tech, is SAP working on? If so, when is the release? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:34 | @Xenon_Kv
@Xenon_Kv seen a few slides but to be truthful don’t know any release dates – my blogs are attempt to understand use cases for HanaAppCloud
07-Dec-11 15:34 | @rhirsch
@rhirsch liked the concept, how real/how fast will it be available? re. #hana #appcloud? @SDenecken #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:37 | @dakoller
@dakoller have to distinguish between HANAApCloud and HANA in the cloud? BIOnDemand is already partly based on HANA #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:39 | @rhirsch
@rhirsch had the app cloud in mind. #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:41 | @dakoller
@rhirsch @dakoller … and ByD uses inMemory/Hana for analytics already as well #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:42 | @SDenecken
@dakoller seen demo of it but absolutely no details #hanappcloud #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:43 | @rhirsch
Q21
Is #SAP expecting to offer an #ERP solution in the #cloud? If so, what model will be used? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:36 | @itelligence_US
#SAPChat @itelligence_US What about Business byDesign as an #ERP solution in the cloud?
07-Dec-11 15:39 | @mkrigsman
@mkrigsman Indeed, it’s a great solutions for SME’s or subsidiaries of LEs #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:41 | @JohnAnthonyHunt
@itelligence_US also check here http://t.co/EvBcnPIp more to come in further blogs from John and myself #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:43 | @SDenecken
Q22
#sapchat Will #ByDesign eventually replace Business Suite in your opinion? Say 2020? When everyone is totally into cloud + support ends? 
07-Dec-11 15:41 | @fredverheul
@fredverheul if I knew 2020 will have a different job… ok, 2Tier ERP / subsidiary is the focus now #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:44 | @SDenecken
Q23
@SDenecken What’s the future of “River” and “Career on Demand”? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:41 | @nikee69
and #river have more integration points with #sap either on or off-premise? @nikee69 #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:44 | @dakoller
@nikee69 if you are referring to NetWeaver Neo / Project River, it isn’t going anywhere – it will only get impt in the future #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:45 | @rhirsch
@nikee69 IMO SAP can’t comment much on Career OnDemand till SAP-SF deal goes thru in 2012. #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:45 | @jonerp
Q24
@fredverheul At the moment, the strategy is to position ByD for SME market only #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:43 | @s_khan
@s_khan @fredverheul #Bydesign not only for SME – platform for LoB OD solutions and much more ME this year, on stage #sapsummit #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:46 | @SDenecken
@SDenecken If more SF like deals take place in future, dont think ByD will act as a platform for all LOB apps. New apps on ByD only #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:50 | @s_khan
@s_khan “SaaS and Multitierd ERP Strategy” or how we would call it – get your subsidiary linked in fast…: http://t.co/8tUlog1Z #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:50 | @SDenecken
@s_khan @fredverheul #Bydesign not only for SME – platform for LoB OD solutions and much more ME this year, on stage #sapsummit #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:59 | @SAPByDesign
Q25
Will #RDS be provided as a #cloud model? #SAPchat
07-Dec-11 15:48 | @SV_muc
@SV_muc RDS is offered as hosted + subscription based pricing, so closed to… #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:50 | @SDenecken
Q26
Will #cloud be a dedicated new LoB at SAP? #SAPchat
07-Dec-11 15:50 | @SV_muc
@SV_muc it is already #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:54 | @SDenecken
Q27
Today #cloud tomorrow on premise; will customers have choice / flexibility for #hybrid? #SAPchat
07-Dec-11 15:50 | @SV_muc
@SV_muc absolutely…our strategy is derived from customer demand #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:50 | @JohnAnthonyHunt
Q28
How can #Gamification play along with #cloud #LoB #apps? #SAPchat
07-Dec-11 15:50 | @SV_muc
@SV_muc question is what unique characteristics of OnDemand platforms can enhance #Gamification efforts #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:54 | @rhirsch
@SV_muc yes, SAP Plays Games with the Analysts, and the Gamification of the Enterprise Begins. See http://t.co/BIm3vUbp #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:53 | @SDenecken
Q29
How to integreate a #cloud philosophy into traditional #software license business? #SAPchat
07-Dec-11 15:51 | @SV_muc
@SV_muc by dedicated uinit, dedicated gtm org and offering hybrid so customers have a choice #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:53 | @SDenecken
Q30
What are the pros and cons of NetWeaver Gateway currently? (Good and not good use cases) #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:52 | @jonerp
@jonerp are you talking about the Cloud-related aspects of Gateway or more general aspects? #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:54 | @rhirsch
@rhirsch cloud-related I guess since we’re in a cloud chat. #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:55 | @jonerp
@jonerp i see gateway like features important for on-demand platform offering to ensure easy consumption #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:57 | @s_khan
@jonerp much depends on ease of integration into OD offerings – if things are too difficult that devs will use it in isolation #sapchat
07-Dec-11 15:59 | @rhirsch
Q31
@steinermatt In what way SAP subsists itself in on-demand solution?Has SAP stepped in considering change in business model so far? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 15:59 | @Xenon_Kv
@Xenon_Kv cloud is one of our 5 pillars, and a substancial business going forward #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 16:01 | @SDenecken
@Xenon_Kv sorry, must have missed your tweet. yes, alternative business models are vital part of the cloud story #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 19:22 | @steinermatt
Q32
@Sap @Sap I have one question on UI.. Why can’t SAP get any look and simplicity such as Apple’s? #SAPChat
07-Dec-11 16:00 | @rahulkarur
@rahulkarur check out our new solution: SAP Travel OnDemand..currently in beta…customers love the UI #sapchat
07-Dec-11 16:02 | @JohnAnthonyHunt
