6 Replies Latest reply: Jul 16, 2010 7:07 AM by INDRANIL BHATTACHARYYA RSS

Account determination in SAP?

MM team
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hii experts,

 

Account determination is major concern in SAP.

 

Whether account determination will be done only SAP MM consultant or any other module responsibilities in account determination?

 

Becas SAP has more business scenario , each will have account determination ??

 

So how ..

 

Thanks

  • Re: Account determination in SAP?
    Raman S
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    Hi

     

    MM, SD and FI wil work together for account determination. For MM part MM and FI will do.

     

    Check it out.

     

    http://www.sapscene.com/sapscene/accassg.html

     

    http://www.sapstudymaterials.com/2007/12/sap-mm-automatic-account-determination_16.html

     

    REgards,

     

    Raman

  • Re: Account determination in SAP?
    Vimalanathan Annamalai
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    hi,

     

    account determination comes into picture only during material movements and the material movements can be related to MM, SD , PP or whatever it is.

    so it is the responsibility of the respective consultants to care of that. and also all consultants will have work together to find out whether the account determination is working fine or not.

  • Re: Account determination in SAP?
    Saminathan Gopalan
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    Hi,

     

    Account Dermination is the Important & big concept. But this always depent on the Business process. How your account impact happen in FI document. What G/L account needs to Pick & picking right G/L account or Not. these all our duties. then do we need automatic posting or Manual Posting of particular G/L account.

     

    everything needs to discuss with Business owner as wll as FI consultant.

     

     

    Error while issue goods

     

    Account determination for entry INT BSX 0001 not possible

     

    Account determination for entry INT GBB ____ ZOB 7920 not possible

     

    SAM

  • Re: Account determination in SAP?
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    Both FI and MM can do the account determination. FI does the account determination through OMWB and MM does it through OBYC.

     

    Automatic Account Determination

    This is perhaps the part that causes the most heartache for the FI Configurer.   For some reason, although it is an integration area, the FI team always ends up with responsibility for it.  To do a good job you need a reasonable understanding of :

     

    the business processes in the source modules

    the FI account postings that they should be generating (what sort of account should be debited or credited etc)

    the organisation structure and its relationships between the source modules

    the reporting requirements that are expected from the General Ledger or Profit Centre Accounting

    your chart of accounts

    Sounds daunting doesn't it ?  Here is a suggested approach ...

     

    The IMG section under GL / business transactions / integration will take you through all the necessary account determination for the automatic postings that the system may need to post.  You may not need all of these.You could maintain on an as needed basis.  As the project teams test or prototype their expanding functionality, the SAP system will look for the accounts to which it should post.  The error message and the SAP documentation and configuration does not always explain clearly which piece of account determination is used for which type of functionality, so it is sometimes difficult to be pro-active. 

     

    Being reactive has the benefit that hopefully each side (eg: MM and FI) can develop an understanding of what the business transaction is and therefore where it should be posting. Otherwise the MM person may not even be aware that he has generated a certain type of posting ! (You'd be amazed at some of the lack of ownership from a logistics consultant for the financial postings that they generate).

     

    I will be explaining each account determination area simply and clearly with posting examples

     

    SD to FI Account Determination (aka revenue account determination).  This and MM seem to confuse people the most.

    More later - This may take a while to complete........

    In the meantime, some general warnings:

     

    Whenever you change the field status settings for an account, ensure that you have verified that any automatic postings will be able to meet the requirements. EG: do not make business area mandatory if your system may make a posting which cannot determine and post the business area.

    Consider specifying that accounts that are posted to automatically can only be posted to automatically.  This will simplify reconciliation between the source module and the GL account should you need to do this.

    SD-FI Account Determination and Postings

    This is known in the IMG as "revenue account determination", but it covers a lot more than that (discounts, taxes etc).  This is what determines how the financial impact of your SD Billing document is posted into the FI General Ledger.

     

    The integration is controlled both in SD and in FI.

     

    In SD there is a awesome area of configuration called the pricing procedures.   The pricing procedure determines the final price quoted to the customer for a particular product.  This could be a complicated calculation taking into account the base price, any special prices or discounts that may apply to that scenario, taxes, freight charges etc.  These prices or charges are called 'condition types'.  This condition technique is used in a number of areas of SAP.

     

    For now all we need to know is that each condition type is assigned to an account key (or in the case of rebates two account keys).  You can assign multiple condition types to the same account key. There are a number of account keys that are pre-defined in the system. For example:

     

    ERF freight revenues

    ERL revenues

    ERS sales deductions

    EVV cash settlement

    MWS sales tax

    Now we start getting to the integration by mapping the account keys to GL accounts.  But it is not as simple as that. It can be as flexible (ie: as complex) as you want. Start off with the most simple approach.  Generally if one is using a good sales / revenue reporting tool (eg: CO-PA) then one does not need a lot of flexibility and variety in the GL accounts that are posted to.  The level of detail that you need in GL should be determined by your financial statement reporting requirements - you may end up with only one Revenue account - it is a good bet!

     

    So, taking the simple approach we would ignore most of the configuration possibilities : procedures, access sequences, condition tables etc  (Yes it is that 'condition technique' kicking in again.  Once you have worked through it once in one area and encounter it in another then hopefully you will be comfortable in knowing that most of the standard configuration can be left as is. )  

     

    We have to decide which access sequences we want to use (Five access sequences are defined in the standard SAP R/3 System). To keep it simple, let us assume we just use one - for example: the access sequence "chart of accounts/sales org./account keys".

     

    The chart of accounts part is standard in all account determinations, so let us look at the rest.  This access sequence allows us to specify different GL accounts for different Sales Organisations. 

     

    So if we had a billing document line item where the customer had some special deductions for one of the products he purchased, we could map accounts by Sales Organisation.  To make it even simpler a document is within one Sales Organisation so we have an overall mapping as follows:

     

    SD Line Item  Condition type SD Amount Account Key Sales Organisation GL Account

    1  Sales deduction for being such a nice guy $10 ERS 1000 800010 - Sales deductions for 1000

    Sales deduction for special promotion on particular product $15 ERS

    Base Revenue $200 ERL 800000 - Revenue for Sales Org 1000

      Total for item 1 $175  

    2 Base Revenue $100 ERL 1000 800000 - Revenue for Sales Org 1000

      Total for item 2 $ 100  

    Document Total $ 275  

     

    So the invoice that the customer gets (and that you can view in SD) will look something like:

     

    Item (Note this is the SD Invoice line item) Amount

    Item 1:  $175

    Item 2:  $100

    Total owing , 30 days terms etc:  $275

     

    The GL document posting that the system will make to FI will look something like this though:

     

    FI Line Item  Debit / Credit  Account Amount

    1 Debit (PK=01) Customer (AR Account) $ 275

    2 Credit (PK=50) Revenue (GL Account) -$ 300

    3 Debit (PK=40) Sales Deduction (GL Account) $25

    Balancing to 0 as all GL documents must....

    $0

     

    Note : There is no direct relation between an SD Line item and an FI Line Item - they are different things.

     

    Other considerations:

    Remember that if you are using business areas, then depending on your configuration there, the system may create additional FI line items if it needs to post to different business areas.  This may be even more of a reason why you do not need additional GL accounts.  If your Sales Organisations already map to different business areas, you could use the GL accounts for all Sales Organisations.

    Different access sequences will allow a broader variety of GL accounts (for example: by customer account) group. I strongly suggest having a good understanding of the reporting requirements expected to be supported from the General Ledger vs the SIS (Sales Information System)  or CO-PA (Profitability Analysis) or (CO-PCA) Profit Centre modules before you create too many GL accounts.  At the risk of repeating myself, the SD to FI account determination should only be as detailed as your statutory reporting requirements.   The reporting from other tools like Profitability Analysis are so much more flexible and powerful, you may never look at the General Ledger for internal profit reporting again except to do a reconciliation check.

  • Re: Account determination in SAP?
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    Integration between MM & FI T.Code OBYC

    Integration between SD & FI T.Code VKOA

    Integration between HR & FI Wage Type>Symbolic Account>GL Account/Vendor Through T.code PC00_M99_DKON details about wage type and GL Account can be known. OBYGAssign Financial Accounts, OBYEAssign Expense Accounts, OBYL-- Assugb Technical Accounts, OBYU--Assign Vendor Accounts.

     

    In SAP every movement of goods is followed by one movement type and movement type trigged transaction event keys. G/L account assignment and G/L account assigned to transaction event key in (OBYC).In Account Determination, we configure relevant to transactions(BSX,PRD,FRE) in Inventory Management and in Invoice Verification (Invoice receipt for automatic postings to G/L accounts in Financial Accounting and Cost Accounting.

     

    For Account Determination there are 5 major criteria's are

    1.Chart of Account,

    2.Valuation Class,

    3.Transaction Event Key,

    4.Valuation Grouping Code,

    5.Account Grouping Code.

     

    You can Configure automatic account determination with following T.Code's :

    1.OMSK: valuation Class with Account catagory reference,

    2.OMWM: Active Valuation Grouping Code,

    3.OMWN: Active Movement type with G/L account,

    4.OMWD: Active Valuation Area,

    5.OMWB: Active Chart of account,Valuation Grouping Code,Account Grouping Code,Valuation Class and G/L acocounts

     

    ****No direct link with priceing procedure.

  • Re: Account determination in SAP?
    INDRANIL BHATTACHARYYA
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    SAP FI & MM people will decide upon the Account determination in SAP

     

    http://www.sapstudymaterials.com/2007/12/sap-mm-automatic-account-determination_16.html

     

    Regards,

     

    Indranil

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