8 Replies Latest reply: Aug 3, 2012 7:49 AM by Mangalraj Senthamaraikannan RSS

Rework

saprame rame
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Hi,

 

 

My general Production process

 

 

Component X will go thru the Operations as below

 

 

Step 1: Operation 10

Step 2: Operation 20

Step 3: Operation 30

 

 

If Component X is accounted as rework.

For rework need to follow the below process

 

 

Step 1: Operation 05 (New Operation for Rework)

Step 2: Operation 10

Step 3: Operation 20

Step 4: Operation 30

 

 

* How to address the issue?

* Whether to create Rework production Order or New Production Order?

* If Rework Production Order.how to do?

* How to calculate the Rework Cost?

 

 

 

Thanks.

  • Re: Rework
    Rupesh Brahmankar
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    Dear,

     

    Create two routing

    First use for normal process.

    Step 1: Operation 10

    Step 2: Operation 20

    Step 3: Operation 30

     

    Second for rework

    Step 1: Operation 05 (New Operation for Rework)

    Step 2: Operation 10

    Step 3: Operation 20

    Step 4: Operation 30

     

    While creating the order select the required routing means at rework use second routing.

     

    Rework Cost will get capture as per the second routing first operation cost.

     

    For more details refer this blog,

    Rework In Manufacturing

     

    Regards,

    R.Brahmankar

  • Re: Rework
    Anup Patil
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    Hello Saprame,

    You can use Rework Production Order for this case.

     

    In order to have this, there is nothing more extra/new you need to do... You just need to define a new Production Order Type, maintain all requried config parameters and use as any other normal production order type (e.g. PP01).

     

    Having rework production order, you will be able to capture/report reworks done in a particular period/plant etc...

     

    Refer link for more info: http://scn.sap.com/thread/1861125

    Regards,

    Anup

  • Re: Rework
    Mangalraj Senthamaraikannan
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    Dear Rame,

     

    There are different ways of capturing the rework cost.

     

    1.The rework operation confirmation and its cost can be captured in the same production order or

     

    else a separate production order (production order without material) can be created using CO07 and

     

    it can be used for confirming the activities and the extra components along in CO15(where in you

     

    cannot perform any GR against this rework production order).

     

    2.IF you want to capture in the same order,add manually one more operation say 0011,next to

     

    operation 0010(only for the quantity to be reworked),mention the work center,quantity and activity

     

    details.

     

    3.Now say for an order quantity of 100,first operation confirmed = 90 and rework 10,then confirm 0011

     

    for 10 and then proceed for 0020 for 100 quantity.

     

    Check and revert back.

     

    Regards

    Mangalraj.S

    • Re: Rework
      Murad Ahmed Shaikh
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      @ Mangalraj

      @ Anup

       

      I was just figuring out if the QM is in process, they why not use the QM Order QN01(Non Conformity costs) which can be used to confirm the operations using activity type and cost center and so over a period of time we can see the total no of rework orders created and rework cost collected over period of time.

      Just a view...Provide ur opinons if this may work as rework is a quality issue so use a quality order and not a process or production order.

       

      Murad

      • Re: Rework
        Mangalraj Senthamaraikannan
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        Dear Murad,

         

        In case if you want to capture it through QM order,then from PP Perspective ,there will be a

         

        mismatch between the order quantity,yield at each operation,rework and scrap quantity.

         

        Say if we are going as per my suggestions,then we can capture the rework quantity properly and it

         

        can be confirmed and then this rework confirmed quantity+yield quantity will become the next

         

        operations yield quantity.

         

        In case if are trying to capture the same through the QM process as you have suggested,then during

         

        the next operation confirmation,the system allows to confirm the previous operations yield quantity.

         

        Correct me if I am wrong.

         

        Regards

        Mangalraj.S

    • Re: Rework
      SANDEEP KUMAR SIDDAMSHETTY
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      hi SAPrame,

       

      I will suggest go with the options provided by mangalraj.

       

      we normally implement the solution of inserting a new operation, if the rework is specific to that order and if there is a rework to be done for specific quantity of that order.

       

      And generally, a new production order rework is entertained, when you need to rework on the entire produced quantity, that means after finishing all the operation steps of the production order.

       

      Thanks,

       

      Regards,

      Sandeep Siddamshetty

      • Re: Rework
        Murad Ahmed Shaikh
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        Sandeep

        Can you comment on my below suggestion,

        Just want to know whether my suggestion will work and whether this is standard practise in case QM is implemented.

        Your solution is agreed upon in case we dont have QM in place and have to manage with only PP.

         

        "

        I was just figuring out if the QM is in process, they why not use the QM Order QN01(Non Conformity costs) which can be used to confirm the operations using activity type and cost center and so over a period of time we can see the total no of rework orders created and rework cost collected over period of time.

        Just a view...Provide ur opinons if this may work as rework is a quality issue so use a quality order and not a process or production order.

        "

         

        Murad

        • Re: Rework
          SANDEEP KUMAR SIDDAMSHETTY
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          Murad,

           

          first, all the discussion depends on the Business/ user requirements and Best practice solutions.

           

          You can definetly define a Inspection Plan, assign resource and  activities and create a QM order. But, can you capture all the activities of Production in this functionality? 

           

          Before going to your suggestion. let me know few things:

           

          1. In order to pick the rejected material in a new order, we need to have a new material code and the cost of that material. (doesnt matter if it is PP order type or QM order type). So every rejected material cannot be of same quality or cost.
          2. If you want to call the rejected material under the expected Finished product and tag to the QM order, then what will be cost of the rejected material? what about the value addition done by the production steps?

           

          so, the best practice is, involving QM orders also, is:

           

          Scenario 1:

           

          If the rejection is during Production, then associate the in process inspection lot to the QM order(if and only if you want to capture the cost involved in doing the inspection, not to capture production cost). you can attach this QM lot to notifcation and refer to the production order, so the track of activities is done. and they can process the material within the same production order by adding extra or rework operations.

           

          Scenario 2.

           

          if the stock produced is rejected by Quality, then again, u can use QM order and QM notification to track and capture the changes and costs, so that a decision suggested by QM can be captured either in Usage decision or in notification.

           

          Hope this helps....

           

          Regards,
          Sandeep

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