cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

BO4 - Upgrade Management Tool - internal_use_only_noversioncheck

former_member272336
Participant
0 Kudos

Hi,

We are looking to move to bo4.1 sp03 from bo4 sp08 - considering patch upggrade but also considering fresh install.

From reading some posts on forums notice there is a (albeit unsupported) option to have this switch in the UMT.

One of options being considered is using UMT to migrate reports as far quicker than lcm.

Universes/users could be moved via promotion management from bo4 sp08 to a server using bo 4.1 but speed of report migration woudl be too slow.

Downside to using promotion management as tool to move all content is that thousands of reports and woudl put strain on tomact application server and we want as small downtime as possible to allow users to stop using bo4 sp08 and switch over to the new 4.1.

Thoughts.

Anyone used upgrade managment tool in this way to move content from 4.0 to 4.1 and any bad effects anybody has seen?

Thanks

Accepted Solutions (1)

Accepted Solutions (1)

Former Member
0 Kudos


Upgrade managment tool is for only to upgrade the content from 3.1 or older systems to 4.0 or higher systems.

UMT should not be used to promote the content from 4.0 and 4.1 systems. Use only Promotion Management move between 4.0 systems.

former_member272336
Participant
0 Kudos

Thanks for reply.

However, promotion management is not practical due to being too slow.

Any other options for cleanly moving content from 4.0 to new server running 4.1

Former Member
0 Kudos

Hello,

Please check this wiki article to see our recommandation to use properly the promotion management tool:

http://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/BOBJ/All+you+need+to+know+before+upgrading+to+BI4.0

This should help you.

Thanks & Regards,

Insaf

former_member272336
Participant
0 Kudos

Hi,

Thanks for reply.

Situation is that we are being recommended to do a fresh install of 4.1 sp03 as otherwise would have to go thorough a declustering exercise and alot of other testing, upgrading from oracle 11.2.0.3 to oracle 11.2.0.4,  to be officially supported along with replacing ntdll.dll on server - hence option of fresh install rather than patch existing environmnet from bo4 sp08 to bo 4.1 sp03.

We have a brand new clean server whcih wnated to put 4.1. sp03 on but porblme we have is to get content from old server running bo4 sp08 to new server running 4.1 sp08 qucikly enough.

Would like to know how we can cleanly get large amount of content cleanly from olde server to new server thus minimising downtime.

Thansk

Former Member
0 Kudos

I would like to correct you here, we can use UMT for migration of objects even from 4.0 to 4.1. Even though it is not supported but it does work wonders.

@Philip: I searched some content and could not find any links which would help with your question regards to the bad effects.

The parameter "-internal_use_only_noversioncheck" is used to avoid the application to check the version at source which would be migrated to newer version.

You can also refer the video links below.

Upgrade Management Tool (UMT) - Business Objects 4.1 Upgrade

UMT - SAP BusinessObjects 4.1 (Upgrade) - YouTube

former_member272336
Participant
0 Kudos

Thanks for update.

0 Kudos

Hi,

i would not got for the UMT here. As already mentioned the internal use only parameter is available but its intend was an internal options to speed up troubleshooting by our Engineers/Developers.

Did you ever tried to use the PM via the CLI? This is faster than the GUI mode.

Regards

-Seb.

former_member272336
Participant
0 Kudos

Hi,

Thanks for reply.

Have used command line interface for promoting objects and also found to be slow.

Need a practical way of moving large amount of content from bo4 sp08 to bo4.1 sp03 to keep downtime to a minmium as want users stop uisng bo4 sp08 systme and couple of hours later begin uisng bo4.1 sp03 but need to be able to migrate thousands of report sin this window.

Is there quick way of doing this?

Thanks

former_member191664
Active Contributor
0 Kudos

Hi,

"Would like to know how we can cleanly get large amount of content cleanly from olde server to new server thus minimising downtime."

Check out SAP BO KB 1969259 - LCM CLI Master Note - How to promote thousands of objects across BI4 environments? on http://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/1969259

The LCM CLI can help you from timeouts occurrence and tomcat7 constrain.

This is what I did.

- edit C:\Users\svc_boxi\Downloads\mig.properties

action=promote

importLocation=C:\Users\svc_boxi\Downloads\mig.lcmbiar

LCM_CMS=WAPP246N:6400

LCM_username=Administrator

LCM_password=xxxxxx

Destination_CMS=WAPP246N:6400

Destination_userName=Administrator

Destination_password=xxxxxx

includeSecurity=false

exportDependencies=false

consolelog=false

- Start LCMBIAR import

C:\Users\svc_boxi\Downloads>"e:\Program Files (x86)\SAP BusinessObjects\SAP BusinessObjects Enterprise XI 4.0\win64_x64\scripts\lcm_cli.bat" -lcmproperty C:\Users\svc_boxi\Downloads\mig.properties

Hope this helps,

Jin-Chong

former_member272336
Participant
0 Kudos

Thanks for update.

What was the speed like when you did this?

We have found creating the biar file can take a while itself.

former_member191664
Active Contributor
0 Kudos

Hi,

1. The Dependency Calculation and Security Calculations take up the most processing  cycles and affect overall performance When you run bulk promotion.

2. Tips from KB 1969259 - LCM CLI Master Note - How to promote thousands of objects across BI4 environments?

"TEMP Space: Ensure that the system running LCM_CLI and the AJS server have ample TEMP space (2-3 times the size of selection) to ensure objects are processed without failure.

AJS HEAP Size: Ensure that the Adaptive Job Server (AJS) processing the jobs handling a large number of objects are sized appropriately. Example there maybe a need to increase the maximum heap to 8 GB Max Heap (-Xmx) or more to ensure

the job finishes and in time."

My Sizing Configuration assign LCM APS (1 GB) for the following services.

· Visual Difference Service

· Promotion Management ClearCase Service

· Promotion Management Service

However, my take is that it should be at least 2 GB as the BIAR export/import took day and night before I increase the heapsize and reduce to hours after the more heap is added.

APS.LCM

- increase Max. Heapspace to 2G; -Xmx2G.

Hope this helps,

Jin-Chong

former_member272336
Participant
0 Kudos

Thanks for advice.

Answers (3)

Answers (3)

wobi
Participant
0 Kudos

Since replication ist not working anymore we have to use third party and since we have already payed we better use a well supported 3rd party tool -

Wobi

wobi
Participant
0 Kudos

well all these "solutions" are extra work - and I will not use it -better to use 3rd party tools to do that. But why not use an old useful tool which could handle migrations in the past ?

Wobi

denis_konovalov
Active Contributor
0 Kudos

There is no extra work, like at all.

UMT for old to new
PMW or LCM CLI for between 4.x versions

what extra work ?
Usage of 3rd party tools is your prerogative, but you have to pay extra to use them.

wobi
Participant
0 Kudos

omg. that is bad - an update from different Bo-Versions within 4.2.x should be possible too - every patch is waisting ressources on the server and a clean new install with a working update management tool would be very helpfull

- wobi

denis_konovalov
Active Contributor
0 Kudos

and you can do this perfectly fine with PMW or LCM CLI .
What exactly is bad here ?