on 06-11-2010 10:27 PM
Sorry to be a pest again, but I dont know who else to turn to - I know they will kill them if I ask for professional help...
In my office at home (in the roof of an old farm house) there are a pair of mongeese living since the beginning of winter last year. They have been well behaved and provide for light entertainment when they have squabbles, but now they seem to have the extended family as permanent visitors and by the sounds of it also naughty offspring which need disciplinary measures all the time.
This blew their cover and the missus is on their case now. By the sounds of things even WLAN networks are not safe so I have some understanding for the concerns myself.
Lots of running around and squeeking going on, all day long and now nights as well.
Does anyone out there have experience with these animals (mongeese) and how to relocate them or at least prevent more "in laws" moving in and providing a home for them which is more intuitive for offspring to be well behaved?
Cheers,
Julius
Found it! And OMG, what I would have missed! Pure gold!
What? No end to the story? What become of the mongoose? Are they now living in the house and your familiy relocated or did the "Music Therapy" the trick?
(And maybe some moderator could move this thread to the Coffee Corner again? )
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Yes, it worked like a charm. It took about a month or so and then we went away for 2 weeks with Rick Astley singing "Never gonna give you up" non-stop and it was over.
It has been 3 years now and still haven't heard from them again.
So the thread can be closed now - thanks for the reminder.. 🙂
Cheers,
Julius
Haha... tell the rat .. he has to do some coading for you in ABAP if he want to share place with you...
look in one week RAT will vanish...
PS: Don't let the Rat join SDN community else he will be one of Gurus...
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Sorry to bounce this old thread, but they are back again...
I blocked the holes in the barn which led into the roof during the summer, but they appear to be made of lava when it gets to cracks in walls and are causing all sorts of havock again.
Based on the noise levels, I also suspect that there is inter-family rivaly for "the winter villa" near the oven chimney, what with all the siblings having returned with their brides and grooms this autumn...
Anyway, we now have a family feud on our side of the wall as well:
- The kids say everyone has a right to a home and also to be loved, and they would like to invite the mongeese to eat with us.
- The missus says the same, but somewhere else please or without her.
- Julius says (but does not realy believe) that the .22 option could be usefull as a workaround, but not scalable.
I am thinking of a "meet you half way" solution such as solar panels in a far corner of the barn with a "mongoose hotel" located directly below it.
Bugger is that you cannot negotiate with them when it does not work and the damage is already done.
I only wanted to update the progress with one of my 4 open threads, and possibly someone can help?
Cheers,
Julius
In general, there are three solutions to any problem, so try the following, in increasing order of severity.
1. Rooftop snipers. Although in your case, they'll be in the roof, rather than on the roof.
2. Flamethrower. Make sure your fire insurance is up to date, and that all combustibles are well away from the target set.
3. Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. However, in Switzerland, you'll need to ensure you have the appropriate certificate and prove you've attended the training course. That, with a license from your local police office, should clear away all the obstacles. Alternatively, wait until the 1st August celebrations and no one will notice.
This would be the Rattenfänger von Hameln, however the flute option was already suggested above but ignored.
You could ask them to moderate each single post in the ABAP forums for a week, this should drive them nuts or away in no time.
Thomas
We have 2 cats, but these mongeese are not a match for a cat.
The cats are scared of them - particularly "Heidi" who had a fight with one of them before and lost one of her 9 lives in the process...!
@ BD: I tried to catch them once before, but they had little ones so I would have been in a delema, even if it had worked (they ignored my trap..
Cheers,
Julius
Folks, I have made some progress here.
A storm blew some tiles off the roof and I was up there putting them back again with the help of my neighbour. Very peacefull place up there. We were chatting away about stuff without being interupted when it occured to me that Christmas time is approaching and after a week or so of listening to Jingle Bells on the radio I will resort to turning it off again, only to be able to listen to it "stuck" in my head until the traffic news kicks in again.
Bingo!
My neighbour has an old HiFi system and the mongeese are now listening to [Boney M Christmas special edition|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7-4GC828rM&feature=&p=B187FB1F729C2F8F&index=0&playnext=1], [Wham karaoke version for them to sing with and suffer|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsAtRKrbB8w] , [Rick Astley|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V29_i3W-a8] , etc. (further suggestions welcome!)
For good measure I have also thrown in [Go West |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wc-AQJ2MYo&feature=channel] incase they are in doubt and [Anton from Austria |http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRe3gLoE0wU] as the needfull not to revert back again.
I turn it on when I go away, and when at home I turn it up really loud at adhoc times of the day (which is their night time so I am waking them).
This is just speculation, but it seems as if Rick Astley is even offensive to mongeese. I have heard them growling even!
Will keep you folks posted (just incase anyone has the same problem).
Cheers,
Julius
As you can see from the above posts, they might even be able to get used to Rick Astley, so I was looking around in youtube for more music - starting with India to add some spice for them.
I found [Benny Lava|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw] which I have now added to the tape.
Can any of the gurus from India or other parts of the world recommend suggest music which a mongoose could not possibly want to listen to?
Cheers,
Julius
A few suggestions after a quick search...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWITX9bJD5U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqr0Uazziu0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN-R1VNl3cw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4WV5galRYc
Enjoy
Thomas
Thanks Thomas!
I would not normally ever listen to this stuff, but it is very funny to imagine what might be going through the mind of a mongoose listening to it.
I will keep you posted whether the vuvuzela generates growls or they throw themselves from the rooftop when Modern Talking kicks in (I missed that one).
But I am sure there is a vaste wealth of music from other cultures in the community which could (over time) be of interest for this solution?
Please do the needfull
Cheers,
Julius
But I am sure there is a vast wealth of music from other cultures in the community which could (over time) be of interest for this solution?
may be "[Diwal|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diwali]i" will help you, this is of both wealth of music(sounds) and light(fireworks). i am sure this will solve your problem.
regards
Mahesh
wow, Thomas found the ultimate clip at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4WV5galRYc
that one might make it too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
Thanks Mahesh and Eric! I will try them out tomorrow morning as I need to wake up early and the little buggers will want to be going to bed.
It is miserable weather outside this evening, so I lit the fire in the living room to warm it up for me (and the fellas in the roof), will be fetching a cigar and a Scotch soon and then settle into a nice big chair to read some SAP installation guide with my feet in the air facing toward the fire. The sounds of [P.D.Q. Bach's Eine Kleine Nichtmusik|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enT9oAE0TxM&feature=related] echo accross from the room beyond and down from several meters above it - where it is quite loud.
Gud!
Cheers,
Julius
The perfect wake-up music for mongeese --> [Sweet Caroline|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU26WfnhRYk]
@ Thomas: Yes, it would be great if folks from other parts of the world could post their music which is most offensive to mongoose and human ears. It is hard to tell when searching youtube whether it is something locally frowned upon or not.
This is at least entertainment for me to know. Any inputs would be usefull
Cheers,
Julius
Not sure about mongeese reaction(may be they will use a big earplug to avoid it) to what Kishan has suggested but found one interesting discussion...
[Himesh Song attracts ghost |http://www.google.co.in/url?q=http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp%3FTID%3D298019&sa=U&ei=kXvjTIGMBc3Ccb-J1ZIM&ved=0CA8QFjAD&usg=AFQjCNHdGXhC9C0QYI-bAaCr1BNvP3rPCg]
may be those ghosts can help to get rid of mongeese..
-Pushkar
This evening I have them on a ration of [I bite your knee|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Vr926F-38&feature=related] however I doubt that mongoose go to bed looking sheepish and hoping for the better.
The music might provide for headaches though - my strategy.
The best effects so far (measured in growls) were from Rick Astley.
Yep, in this case it does make some sense... --> where is Gareth? We need a Dijeridoo in C-minor
Cheers,
Julius
(offtopic)
See "Your friend the rat", a funny film from Pixar. I cannot find it in English, here are the [Japanese|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjOrIrR3EqY&feature=related], [Russian|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR5BozlyJKE&feature=related], and [Spanish|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2_NUvdKWHU&feature=related] versions.
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Moderator message: please follow up on the replies. Did they solve your problem? Please share your solution with the community. Did you try hiring a vuvuzela big band? Remember to assign p01nx to meaningless replies.
Thomas
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As Winston Churchill said
u201CAnyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat"
To know more about Rats check the year 2006 movie THE DEPARTED. There are so many rats in it.
For your reference here is an eHOW remedy - [Ratssssssssss|http://www.ehow.com/how_2263302_use-drinks-kill-mice-rats.html]
Happy Hunting !!
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A giant vuvuzela should get rid of anything that has ears
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now's the time to get a pussy cat from the pet shop.
I thaw I thaw a putty cath!
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Why don't you get one of those ultrasound things that are supposed to keep them away?... The other suggestion will be to get a trap (cage trap) and just relocate them as they fall.
Juan
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I might be tempted to put up with the noise of Rikki Tikki Tavi and his family if I was overrun by snakes, but I don't think that is a problem where you live.
I like the high frequency suggestion by Juan, but it doesn't work on all critters. I have one in the shed out back that looks like a plug in air fresher and it hasn't kept away the squirrels or groundhogs.
Hi Julius
We had a problem here with mice, rats and possums getting into the roof. Got one of the ultrasound things and installed in the roof. All good in terms of possums, but after a couple of weeks the rats and mice were back. So I got a better ultrasound thing and this one allows you to change the frequency, cycle through frequencies and also send out an electro magnetic field. This works so long as you add changing the settings to your weekly task list.
Now when I was growing up, we had a rat problem and so my grandfather went into the bush and caught a carpet python. This was placed in the roof and lived happily ever after. Rat problem solved but a couple of times we could see the old fella through the holes in the ceiling (the snake that is, not my grandfather). I suggested doing the same to the missus but she went all quiet and stopped talking for a time.
Now in the hay shed our favorite method was a 22 with ratshot, but that is another story.
You know it makes sense
Gareth Ellem
Edited by: Gareth Ellem on Jun 16, 2010 1:01 AM
The bugger is that they now have kids and I suspect the in-laws have moved in as well, so trapping some of them and driving accross the boarder is not an option for me anymore.
It's not fair nor humane. I'm a softy
The cats (we have two of them) are scared of the mongeese, because they lost the last game and one of them was "sent off the field"... These things are a bit like Tasmanian devils and are roof-wise!
Regarding the .22 this is very time consuming. I need kids, right? Heavily armed and level headed kids?
So... I'll try the now subliminal vuvuzela when my own in-laws are here and revert back to you all.
My neighbour also tells me that they will soon move out when the rain stops, the little 'uns can catch mice in the fields and real summer finally arives, and that is the time to block all the holes in the roof so that they don't get back in again (perhaps we can prolong the absense with sonic boost machine, without suffering from megraines ourselves?).
Thanks for all your kind suggestions and insights.
I will follow-up and keep you informed.
Cheers,
Julius
My father used to trap squirrels in these things called "Have a Heart" traps which were basically one way in and no way out cages. He would bait them with crackers and peanut butter which they seemed to like. He would then drive the cages out in to the country and release the squirrels. The only problem is he swore that the same squirrels kept making their way back. We always wanted to try doing a kind of Jaques Cousteau marine mammel tagging to prove his point, but unfortunately passed away before he could find the grant funding to do this.
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> Hi Julius
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> We had a problem here with mice, rats and possums getting into the roof. Got one of the ultrasound things and installed in the roof. All good in terms of possums, but after a couple of weeks the rats and mice were back. So I got a better ultrasound thing and this one allows you to change the frequency, cycle through frequencies and also send out an electro magnetic field. This works so long as you add changing the settings to your weekly task list.
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> Now when I was growing up, we had a rat problem and so my grandfather went into the bush and caught a carpet python. This was placed in the roof and lived happily ever after. Rat problem solved but a couple of times we could see the old fella through the holes in the ceiling (the snake that is, not my grandfather). I suggested doing the same to the missus but she went all quiet and stopped talking for a time.
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> Now in the hay shed our favorite method was a 22 with ratshot, but that is another story.
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> You know it makes sense
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> Gareth Ellem
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> Edited by: Gareth Ellem on Jun 16, 2010 1:01 AM
ROTFLMAO
@JB
Since you are a softy, may be its time to look for another house along with the vehicle?
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